I love the random sausage photo at the start — so out of place, I love it 🙃
As for that pesky person who pointed out that Jung said a similar thing, shame on them for not letting you just enjoy coming to the realisation yourself — who would comment such a thing... 🙃
And as for your 5 poems — I love what you did there, enemy or friend who’s the real hero? Very well done, April :)
I actually love the fact that the 'un-named commenter' pointed it out. I have turned the thought around now - instead of wondering if I am uneducated I have realised that it is amazing that I have come to these thoughts without being told them ha ha. What a level of human understanding that I have had the same thoughts as Jung and Shakespeare! Wow!
I have observed that none of my friends have liked the poem so I may have to go around apologising to all those who take these things so personally. I am very challenging to have as a friend because I just want people to THINK about stuff. I am also not the ideal friend if you just want your illusions reinforced ha ha, totally rubbish at that!
Yes, totally! Anyone can read about some idea someone else said and then spout it off, but to actually come to the same idea of your own volition is a far more impressive feat.
Hahaha ohh no! Rubbing people the wrong way with your wayward thoughts and poems — naughty, April. But in all seriousness, I can relate. I want people to think about things too and sometimes I think I do this in a way that is perceived as being challenging or questioning others beliefs — but I’m not (I swear) I’m just curious about all this stuff for myself and I want others to think about it with me so that we can talk about it.
Yes! I'm exactly like that and for some reason people do feel like your challenging them. I wonder why people reach a stage of life where they feel they have defined themselves as a certain personality or set with certain beliefs and they carry that forever! Why does it seem unacceptable to be re-evaluating how we perceive life? Just wait until you get to my age, flipping heck, people have set themselves in stone ha ha. I just want to chip away at them like a sculptor to see if I can find their inner curious child again. I guess I am probably annoying!!
I certainly don’t know for sure, after all I am just a humble platypus, but I feel like people don’t like there beliefs being challenged because at the bottom of everything — all we have is our beliefs, and so, if someone starts pointing out how my beliefs might be wrong then they are fundamentally challenging my understanding of reality. And it was hard and scary for me to form this view of reality and if I find out it’s wrong I’m going to feel like so much of what I’ve done is wrong...
I think a part of it is that.
And I think a part of it is that people identify with their ideas and beliefs as if they are them. As if, if their ideology is dismantled they are dismantled.
But the thing is, I don’t think people consciously think all that stuff in the moment when their views gets challenged, all that is under the surface. It’s defence mechanisms. It’s like people want certainty so bad they would rather delude themselves into believing what they think is certain than actually exploring the uncertainty of alternative ideas.
Yes, I feel the platypus shows good wisdom from his modesty here! Also, this "As if, if their ideology is dismantled they are dismantled" is a the root of it, very true. I suspect that the difference for me is that if someone challenges me, I may indeed be triggered in the moment and then I say to myself "Ah ha, I am triggered to feel... anger, annoyance, whatever, therefore that means there must be something in that triggering that I need to understand" I can then look again at what the challenger has said to me to evoke that response and try and understand it better without the perceived threat of the challenge. I LOVE to be triggered, it teaches me so much more about myself than agreeing with someone. I guess most people don't think like this. Ah well I can just add it to growing list of possible reasons to guess that I may not be human after all. 😂
“I LOVE to be triggered, it teaches me so much more about myself than agreeing with someone” — this is (one of the many reasons) why your awesome, April. You genuinely want to learn and grow and not just be right. We need more people like you :)
Good stuff in here, and I'm left wondering whether I'm a friend or an enemy or neither and both. But you did that on purpose, didn't you? I see what you did there :)
Ha ha. I just like to throw out a challenge and see what people do with it. I love that you commented and shared your thoughts. Isn't it interesting that we place such importance on these words?
Yes, great confusion when we learn that is by those things — people, places, things — for which we have antipathy most truly show us who we are! Fantastic poem, and there are almost quoting Shakespeare and Jung! Yes, the 'real' truth of life have been expressed in very similar ways by many many before us. Truly, all exists in a continuum and we can relax into the uniqueness of our express of that! LoL! Love it. Great sharp poem. Does me liking this put me into the friend or enemy page, though!? OMG, now it is my turn to be confused. And I have found that confusions drops as soon as we stop lying and stop using those nasty bully by force and bully by guilt words and once more I am breathing deeply into my pelvic floor.
(Editorial tip. Substack will allow the Edward de Vere (aka Shakepeare) quotation to look better using the poetry block option, too.)
Ha ha. Ahh now! This is where it gets interesting I think. We have the words friend and enemy and we think they mean something, I do not believe that they do. If we are triggered to negative emotions (by our perceived enemy) we learn through pain often. We should also learn through being triggered by positive but somehow we often allow the positive to send us back to a lack of questioning. If then we are just open to all and learn from all, first we can see that the words mean nothing, we neither have trust in a friend nor mistrust of an enemy. All of that is just conditioning. What are we if we do none of that? This is where I explore....
I tried the poetry block but failed ha ha. Perhaps I needed to have another go.... tech challenged!
I love the random sausage photo at the start — so out of place, I love it 🙃
As for that pesky person who pointed out that Jung said a similar thing, shame on them for not letting you just enjoy coming to the realisation yourself — who would comment such a thing... 🙃
And as for your 5 poems — I love what you did there, enemy or friend who’s the real hero? Very well done, April :)
I actually love the fact that the 'un-named commenter' pointed it out. I have turned the thought around now - instead of wondering if I am uneducated I have realised that it is amazing that I have come to these thoughts without being told them ha ha. What a level of human understanding that I have had the same thoughts as Jung and Shakespeare! Wow!
I have observed that none of my friends have liked the poem so I may have to go around apologising to all those who take these things so personally. I am very challenging to have as a friend because I just want people to THINK about stuff. I am also not the ideal friend if you just want your illusions reinforced ha ha, totally rubbish at that!
Yes, totally! Anyone can read about some idea someone else said and then spout it off, but to actually come to the same idea of your own volition is a far more impressive feat.
Hahaha ohh no! Rubbing people the wrong way with your wayward thoughts and poems — naughty, April. But in all seriousness, I can relate. I want people to think about things too and sometimes I think I do this in a way that is perceived as being challenging or questioning others beliefs — but I’m not (I swear) I’m just curious about all this stuff for myself and I want others to think about it with me so that we can talk about it.
Yes! I'm exactly like that and for some reason people do feel like your challenging them. I wonder why people reach a stage of life where they feel they have defined themselves as a certain personality or set with certain beliefs and they carry that forever! Why does it seem unacceptable to be re-evaluating how we perceive life? Just wait until you get to my age, flipping heck, people have set themselves in stone ha ha. I just want to chip away at them like a sculptor to see if I can find their inner curious child again. I guess I am probably annoying!!
I certainly don’t know for sure, after all I am just a humble platypus, but I feel like people don’t like there beliefs being challenged because at the bottom of everything — all we have is our beliefs, and so, if someone starts pointing out how my beliefs might be wrong then they are fundamentally challenging my understanding of reality. And it was hard and scary for me to form this view of reality and if I find out it’s wrong I’m going to feel like so much of what I’ve done is wrong...
I think a part of it is that.
And I think a part of it is that people identify with their ideas and beliefs as if they are them. As if, if their ideology is dismantled they are dismantled.
But the thing is, I don’t think people consciously think all that stuff in the moment when their views gets challenged, all that is under the surface. It’s defence mechanisms. It’s like people want certainty so bad they would rather delude themselves into believing what they think is certain than actually exploring the uncertainty of alternative ideas.
It’s wild... but then again, what do I know :)
Yes, I feel the platypus shows good wisdom from his modesty here! Also, this "As if, if their ideology is dismantled they are dismantled" is a the root of it, very true. I suspect that the difference for me is that if someone challenges me, I may indeed be triggered in the moment and then I say to myself "Ah ha, I am triggered to feel... anger, annoyance, whatever, therefore that means there must be something in that triggering that I need to understand" I can then look again at what the challenger has said to me to evoke that response and try and understand it better without the perceived threat of the challenge. I LOVE to be triggered, it teaches me so much more about myself than agreeing with someone. I guess most people don't think like this. Ah well I can just add it to growing list of possible reasons to guess that I may not be human after all. 😂
The platypus tries...
“I LOVE to be triggered, it teaches me so much more about myself than agreeing with someone” — this is (one of the many reasons) why your awesome, April. You genuinely want to learn and grow and not just be right. We need more people like you :)
Good stuff in here, and I'm left wondering whether I'm a friend or an enemy or neither and both. But you did that on purpose, didn't you? I see what you did there :)
Ha ha. I just like to throw out a challenge and see what people do with it. I love that you commented and shared your thoughts. Isn't it interesting that we place such importance on these words?
It's what frienemies do ;) see what I did there? Haha
Excellent I am laughing with delight ❤🙏 thank you!
Yes, great confusion when we learn that is by those things — people, places, things — for which we have antipathy most truly show us who we are! Fantastic poem, and there are almost quoting Shakespeare and Jung! Yes, the 'real' truth of life have been expressed in very similar ways by many many before us. Truly, all exists in a continuum and we can relax into the uniqueness of our express of that! LoL! Love it. Great sharp poem. Does me liking this put me into the friend or enemy page, though!? OMG, now it is my turn to be confused. And I have found that confusions drops as soon as we stop lying and stop using those nasty bully by force and bully by guilt words and once more I am breathing deeply into my pelvic floor.
(Editorial tip. Substack will allow the Edward de Vere (aka Shakepeare) quotation to look better using the poetry block option, too.)
Ha ha. Ahh now! This is where it gets interesting I think. We have the words friend and enemy and we think they mean something, I do not believe that they do. If we are triggered to negative emotions (by our perceived enemy) we learn through pain often. We should also learn through being triggered by positive but somehow we often allow the positive to send us back to a lack of questioning. If then we are just open to all and learn from all, first we can see that the words mean nothing, we neither have trust in a friend nor mistrust of an enemy. All of that is just conditioning. What are we if we do none of that? This is where I explore....
I tried the poetry block but failed ha ha. Perhaps I needed to have another go.... tech challenged!